https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3VdgdLlO2c&list=TLAE08DfT_ETK4ioSrxVjGefZMFGcKUZBp#t=4m39s
"Book of REVELATION:
She is crying in agony and pain, about to deliver a baby. . .other faiths indeed are awaiting the Saviour who will take them from the current oppression and injustice . . . ."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelver
Twelvers, Twelver Shī'ite or Imamiyyah (Imami Shi'a Islam) (Arabic: اثنا عشرية, Athnā‘ashariyyah or Ithnā‘ashariyyah; Persian: شیعه دوازدهامامی, pronounced [ʃiːʔe-je dævɑzdæh emɑmiː]) is the largest branch of Shī'ī (Shi'a) Islam. Adherents of Twelver Shī'ism are commonly referred to as Twelvers, which is derived from their belief in twelve divinely ordained leaders, known as the Twelve Imāms, and their belief that the Mahdi will be the returned Twelfth Imam who disappeared and is believed by Twelvers to be in occultation(Hidden until he comes back).
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The Catholic(blasphemous Satanic) interpretation of Revelation 12:
http://www.holyspiritinteractive.net/columns/edwardpsri/knowingmary/09.asp
Mother of All the Living
Second, Revelation 12 presents Mary as the Mother of All Christians, a title that fits well with the New Eve theme. According to Genesis 3:20, Eve’s name means "mother of all living." Therefore, if Mary is the New Eve, it would be fitting to see her as the new mother of all the living—the spiritual mother of all those who are alive in Christ. This maternal role over all Christians becomes even more explicit in Revelation 12:17. Here, the woman appears not only as the mother of the Messiah, but also the mother of other offspring, who are described as "those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus" (Rev. 12:17). Revelation 12, therefore, clearly reveals Mary as the mother of all who follow Christ.Similar to the beloved disciple in the Gospel of John, these children of the woman are depicted as loyal followers of Jesus who have a special mother-son relationship with Mary. As such, Revelation 12:17 stands out in the Bible as the Scripture verse that most clearly demonstrates Mary’s maternal relationship with all Christians. She is the mother of "those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus." In other words, she is the Mother of All Christians.
Treat Her Like a Queen?
However, from a Biblical perspective, Mary’s queenship makes perfect sense. In ancient Near Eastern kingdoms, it was the mother who reigned as queen, not the king’s wife. The kings typically had large harems; thus, it was not feasible to bestow the queenship on hundreds of women. But each king had only one mother, and the queenship was given to her.This background provides important biblical foundations for understanding Mary’s queenship. From a scriptural perspective, Mary’s queenship is very clear. As the mother of the King (Jesus), she would be the Queen Mother in her Son’s kingdom. That’s why Revelation 12 presents Mary as the Queen Mother. In fact, the passage describes Mary in ways that recall the queen mother tradition of the Old Testament.
A Royal Woman
This verse reveals Mary’s royal splendor in three ways. First, she wears a crown, symbolizing her own royal status. Second, the woman having "the moon under her feet" also points to her royalty, for in the Bible, "under-the-foot" imagery describes royal dominion and victory over one’s enemies (e.g., Ps. 110:1). Third, the triple celestial image of the woman being clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and crowned with 12 stars, also demonstrates her royal authority.
In conclusion, as the mother of the Messiah-King, Mary would be understood as the Queen Mother in Christ’s kingdom. Therefore, the Catholic understanding of Mary as queen makes perfect biblical sense. No wonder she appears decked out in royal splendor, clothed with the sun, crowned with 12 stars, with the moon under her feet!
And the Bible’s revelation of Mary as Queen Mother also sheds light on her powerful intercessory role. If the queen mother served as an advocate for the people bringing their petitions to the king, then we have strong biblical foundations for Mary’s role as our advocate. As our Queen Mother, she too brings our petitions before the throne of our divine King.
http://jesus-partisans-balkans.blogspot.it/2014/06/russian-shenanigans-hide-and-seek-icons.html
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I present to you a list of anecdotes about FATIMA (daughter of Muhammad, with a key role in Shi'a theology). You can note the borrowings of attributes that in Scripture are variously ascribed to the Church, Christ or Israel and the similarities between this "Fatima" figure and the Roman "Virgin Mary". There are also other things that have been adopted by Islam. My words are in BLUE. Compare with the biblical texts and the Catholic interpretation of Revelation 12 given above:
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'When Khadija was about to deliver, she sent for the Quraishan women to help her give birth to her child. They refused and said: 'We will not help you; for you became Muhammad's wife.'
In the meantime, four women entered the house; their beauty and brilliance cannot be described. One of them said:
'I am your MOTHER EVE.'
The second said:
`I am Asiya Bint Muzahim(wife of the pharaoh).'
The third said:
'I am Kulthum, Musa's sister.'
The fourth said:
"I am Mariam Bint Imran, (Isa's mother/mother of Jesus). We have come to deliver your child. "
(the pagan concept of tripple/quadruple goddesses?)
FATIMA WAS THEN BORN
"When Fatima fell on the ground, she was in a prostrating position, raising her finger."
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"Fatima has nine names near Allah (Exalted be His Name), they are: Fatima, Siddiqah (the honest), Al-Mubarakah (the blessed one), At-Tahirah (virtuous), Az-Zakiyah (the chaste), Ar-Radhiatul Mardhiah (she who is gratified and who shall be satisfied), Al-Muhaddathah (a person, other than a prophet, that the angels speak to), and Az-Zahra (the splendid)."
`Because she and her followers are protected from Hell, I heard Allah's Messenger say thus.'
`Why was she named (FATIMA)?'
He replied:
`Because she [Fatima az-Zahra], and her followers (Shiites) are protected from Hell. "'
CF the Catholic reading of Matthew 16:18
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"When Allah created Adam... (until He said) there was a brilliant girl from whom light was illuminating, and on her head was a golden crown ornamented with diamonds; the like of whom Adam had never seen.
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"The Messenger of Allah (S) said: 'When Allah created Adam and Eve, they strutted through paradise and said: `Who are better than we?' At that moment they noticed an image of a girl like they had never seen before; from this girl came an illuminating light so bright that it almost blinded the eyes.
CF Acts 26:13; 1 Timothy 6:16
They said: 'O Lord, what is this?'
He [Allah ((SwT))] answered: 'This is the image of Fatima, the mistress of your women descendants.'
CF with 1 Peter 3:6
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We have already mentioned that one of Fatima's names was Siddiqah. This word means a woman with scrupulous honesty and sincerity.
“Siddiqah” differs from the word “Sadook”, in that the first is scrupulous and precise in telling facts. Furthermore, several other meanings have been given to the word Siddiqah; among them are:
A. She who is a truth-teller.
B. She who never lies.
C. She whose deeds conform to her words.
D. She who never lied, because she is used to truthfulness.(VIRGO FIDELIS)
E. A woman with scrupulous speech and beliefs, and whose deeds conform to her words.
F. She who believes in the commands of Allah, and His Prophet's, without doubting any of them.
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"You have lost your son, but We have given you Fatima; although she is just one, Allah will make that one many."
CF Genesis 26:4; Gal 3:16,29
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"And, Allah only wished to remove all abomination from you, ye member of the Family, and to make you pure, and spotless."
CF Ephesians 5:26-28; 2 Corinthians 11:2
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Because she [Fatima az-Zahra (sa)] is satisfied with Allah's rewards, and grants to her, and is satisfied with Allah's will in this world, He has become well pleased with her.
CF Matthew 3:17; 12:18
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Thereupon, it becomes readily easy to distinguish that Fatima az-Zahra (sa) was spoken to by angels. Because “the Mistress of all women”, and the daughter of the best of all Prophets and Messengers is not any less significant than Maryam Bint Imran (as), or, Sarah, Ibrahim's (as) wife, or, Musa's (as) mother. Of course, this shall not be misunderstood, for any of these ladies-including Lady Fatima az-Zahra (sa) were not a prophet.
CF Luke 1:26
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"...Fatima's book, I don't claim that it is Qur’an, rather it contains what makes people need us and makes us in need of no one. It even mentions (the legal punishment for) a lashing, half a lashing, one fourth of a lashing, and the indemnity for a scratch mark." 3|
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In conclusion, Fatima’s (sa) book is enormous, and includes detailed information about the legal punishments, and the Islamic penal code, whether major, or, minor.
It was also declared that her book lists the names of kings who ruled, and will rule on Earth until the Day of Resurrection. All this was according to the will of Allah the Knowing, the Omniscient. The book also contains descriptions of all-important events that will take place throughout history.
CF Revelation 21:27
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"Surely my daughter Fatima is: The Mistress of all women from the beginning to the end. She is part of me, and the light of my eyes, She is the f lower of my heart, and is my soul, (Fatima) is a human huri, who whenever she stands in prayers in the presence of Her Lord (Exalted is His Name), her light illuminates the skies for the angels, like stars shine to people on Earth.
CF Isaiah 42:6; 2 Corinthians 4:6; John 8:12
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This is one of the names given to Fatima. This name declares that she was always a virgin, in the meaning that she was chaste.
Many traditions have already been mentioned, which attest the fact that she was conceived of heavenly food, and that Fatima was a human “huri” (female of paradise). There is not exaggeration in this expression, rather, stating that Fatima was always virgin, is nothing but the absolute truth. Besides the narrations that verify this fact, the Holy Qur’an states:
"We have created (the huri) of special creation; and made them virgin pure (and undefiled)." (56: 35-36)
CF Catholic "Perpetual virginity of Mary"
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therefore, was it not possible for Fatima’s (sa) wedding to have been celebrated in the exalted heavens, and attended by the nearest angels to Allah, the Exalted, as Prophetic traditions state? Indeed, this is what happened in tribute to Fatima az-Zahra (sa), her Father, her husband, and her future children who are the authorities of Allah on His creatures.
CF John 3:29; Isaiah 62:5; Revelation 19:7-9; Jeremiah 3:14 etc
The celebration took place in the fourth Heaven near Al-Bait al-Ma'mour (the constantly attended house of Allah). It was a unique event the like of which the universe had never encountered before. Angels from all the Heavens gathered in the fourth Heaven, and erected the Minbar of Honor, which is made of light. Then Allah, The Almighty, revealed to one of His angels, Rahil, to ascend the Minber and praise and glorify His names as He deserves. Rahil, who was the most eloquent of all angels, did what his Lord revealed to him and said:
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`When the scholars of our Shiite (followers) are gathered (on the Day of Resurrection), they will be bestowed with garments of honor equal in quantity to their knowledge and struggle to guide Allah's worshippers, up to the point that anyone of them will be gifted with one million garments of light.' Then the caller of our Exalted and Glorified Lord will say:
CF Daniel 12:3; 1 Thessalonians 2:19
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The Prophet (S) then embraced Fatima (sa), kissed her hand and said:
"May your father be your sacrifice, Fatima."
CF Philippians 2:17; 2 Timothy 4:6
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"The garden has eight gates: one for the entry of prophets and the truthful ones, the other for the martyrs and the good ones; and five gates are for the entry of our Shiites and lovers-I shall be standing on the As-Sirt (the path, the bridge over hell) praying and saying: `My Lord! Save my Shiites and my lovers and my helpers and those who followed me in the (life of the) world.' When all of a sudden there will come a voice from inside the throne: Your prayer is granted and your intercession for your Shiites accepted.' And every Shiite of mine and everyone who loves me, helps me and fights my enemies by (his) deed or word, shall intercede for seventy thousand of his neighbors and relatives; and (there is) a gate from which shall enter all the Muslims who witness that there is no god except Allah and in whose heart there is not an iota of enmity towards us, the people of the cause." CF Revelation 21:14,21; Isaiah 60:18
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Ziyarah of Fa?ima Zahra 137
O Allah send blessings upon Mu?ammad and his Househ
old,
And upon the immaculate, the pure lady,
The veracious, the sinless one,
The pious, the immaculate one,
The content, the well!pleased one
to be continued. . . .
ARE YOU SAVED?


Thanks for your exposition. Ok I only begun to read but I m sure you ll not delude the sincere Christian reader. To start I noticed the number twelve, they are the 12 kings descending from Ishmael as announced by God and it interesting to see them as a sort of counterpart of the twelve tribes of Jacob/Israel, a counterpart then the Catholic reading of Revelation seems to push in the sky in those 12 stars:
ОтговорИзтриване"...Twelvers,....(.....).......is the largest branch of Shī'ī (Shi'a) Islam......"
".....with the moon under her feet and crowned with 12 stars, also demonstrates her royal authority. ......".
Is Satan trying to capitalize consensus toward his worldly religious system monopolizing the religious implication of the God's prophecy to Abraham regarding Ishmael, in Islam via Shia, among Christians via Catholicism interpretation of the Revelation's woman?
Yes, the twelve kings, the twelve apostles, the twelve imams. In islam, it appears EVERYTHING is replaced with a Satanic counterfeit. As you can see attributes of God, Jesus, the Church and Israel are transplanted onto the figures of the prophet Muhammad and his successors. No doubt these commonalities are to be somehow used by Rome and Satan, most likely in a corrupt intepretation of revelation which will fit their eschatological scheme.
ИзтриванеThe figure of Mahdi is pointed by some to be the last antichrist, which I don't support at the moment. The Shia believe that they will unite with RUM(Rome or the byzantines) BUT will destroy them after they have fought together in an alliance against the powers of the west. In their prophecy, this is supposed to be the last battle before Islam takes over the world. It is RIGHT THERE, I believe that Rome have a trick up their sleeve and fight back and WIN. I think there is a probability that Islam will be DITCHED/GOTTEN RID OF by Satan at the very end(before the second coming) as the pope (or some grand monarch) be declared the "saviour" of Israel. I don't see Israel warming up to an islamic figure, unlike the pope and his minions.
Also, we have yet to see what exactly comes out of China(except a very mass, straightforward catholization)
Just some days ago, a creepy massacre in Italy, a 31 years man (declared as 32 years old by the media) murders wife (38 years) and two sons, 5 years and 20 months, then he went to watch the football match [14/06 18:00 (0.00) England - Italy (Manaus)] with friends then he comes back and stage the discovery but CARABINEERS didn't believe him.:
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"....The monster of Milan is the husband killed his wife and children to a colleague, "I wanted to be free to fallen again in love».........There are about 23 when Charles and his wife, Christina, are located in the living room of the villa. The children sleep upstairs. The two have a sexual relationship, then she lies on a couch, watching TV, and he gets up and goes into the kitchen. An act normal, like to drink a glass of water, but when he comes back holding a long knife, the door quietly behind his wife and hits her peak between the throat and shoulders.................."
I spare to you the details of the murder of the children, oh God, it's of an horror.... It makes me tears.... OK let's have a clear mind, it recalls to me other cruel massacre which were smelling to have been something more than explosion of satanic instincts. The man is of age 31 (31 October), he fell in love with a woman, a colleague, but the woman refused him... so he wanted to play seriously but the family was only an obstacle to start courting the colleague. So he decided to murder the family. Very allegorical this massacre, he murder the LEGITIMATE (from the point of view of the Bible) wife, for an IDEALIZATION (Queen of Heaven/virgin Mary/Harlot), and assassinate his TWO kids....
As regard Revelation chapter 12, Alexander Hislop gives his interpretation of the woman:
ОтговорИзтриване"......It will be observed, however, that the Great Red Dragon, or Great Fiery Serpent, is represented as standing before the Woman with the crown of twelve stars, that is, the true Church of God, "To devour her child as soon as it should be born." Now, this is in exact accordance with the character of the Great
Head of the system of fire-worship. Nimrod, as the representative of the devouring fire to which human victims, and especially children, were offered in sacrifice, was regarded as the great child-devourer...........".
[Chapter VII The Two Developments Historically and Prophetically Considered - Section I The Great Red Dragon; page 231 my edition, anyway free download many free sources as you want]
This interpretation fits with the actual Satan's scenario, where the BRIDE (wife) of JESUS, i.e. the True Church of God, is carnalised, materialized, embodied in a well identified once existed real historical person (mother of Jesus Christ) in order to get the conceptual distraction, away from the spiritual object, the true object of persecution, the True Church of God/Jesus Christ the Lord. See the deception in action (excerpt from above):
".... Treat Her Like a Queen?
However, from a Biblical perspective, Mary’s queenship makes perfect sense. In ancient Near Eastern kingdoms, it was the MOTHER who reigned as queen, not the king’s WIFE. The kings typically had large harems; thus, it was not feasible to bestow the queenship on hundreds of women. But each king had only one MOHTER, and the queenship was given to her. ........".
Away from "wife" ----> all attention focused on "mother". Satan at work!
After you gave me that very precious link "Waldensians were independent Baptists", I re-read some pieces of A. Hislop, and observed that he was against Baptismal regeneration, he intended Baptism in accordance with true Gospel, only I don't know if he did also the Baptism as immersion:
".....So much for the lack of baptism. Then as to its positive efficacy when obtained, the Papal doctrine is equally anti-Scriptural. There are professed Protestants who hold the doctrine of Baptismal Regeneration; but the Word of God knows nothing of it. The Scriptural account of baptism is, not that it communicates the new birth, but that it is the appointed means of signifying and sealing that new birth where it already exists.........." [Chapter IV Doctrine and Discipline - Section I Baptismal Regeneration].
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ИзтриванеIts ok, blogger is acting weird now
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ОтговорИзтриване"PS : i found difficulties in sending this comment, i lost it due to "problems to the server" and had to rewrite it! - the Harlot in action?"
Изтриване"ah Ok, now it's gone.... someone is playing with the server out there???"
Yes, something was wrong, I deleted one of the comments now
Sorry i erase this post there and put here as "reply":
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avles19 юни 2014 г., 3:39
"....Yes, something was wrong, I deleted one of the comments now.......".
No it was not that, i too deleted duplication of posts, I refer to the fact that when I posted for the first time "......avles17 юни 2014 г., 12:17 As regard Revelation chapter 12, Alexander Hislop gives his interpretation of the woman:......." post, I lost the comment because "an error" or similar, and appeared the Google icon in the blank space for comments... I believe that not for a case. I had to rewrite the comment then i erased because the disappeared one re-appered again.
When I expose in a local forum the Waldensians story as early independent Baptists, then I observe disturbance in my communication with my mate far away in the Philippines. Fortunately today it was due to common distraction (phone forgot at home), but sometimes i perceive an hand manipulating communication lines....
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ОтговорИзтриване"CF Philippians 2:17; 2 Timothy 4:6"
ОтговорИзтриване2:17 aka 2017?
Thanks for the hint, completely missed it ..... again simonist fables resurging in another daughter of the harlot
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