The Vatican is rushing towards its goal of being abused and victimized by the new Ottoman caliphate. But before this last crusade can begin, islam must radicalized. Is that done through radical preaching? Yes, but much more so by
threatening the fundamentals of islam by soft, secular, ecumenical leaders, whose proclamations are borderline blasphemies. And the jesuits perfectly know that muslims are very sensitive to sectarianism and are paranoic about what they perceive as further corruptions of their religion. They are also aware of the xenophobia towards catholic nationals and europeans. Using this, they have given Erdogan a
perfect justification for the initiation of his "
counter-reform" back in 2008-2009.
What is the best way to push sunnis in the fundamentalist reactionary corner?
This:http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JF03Ak02.htmlTin-opener theology from Turkey 
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By Spengler
For months we have read news reports of an Islamic reform stemming from the University of Ankara's theology department. A widely-cited February 28 report by Robert Pigott, the BBC's religion correspondent, claimed that Ankara would "fashion a new Islam" along "revolutionary" lines. In less flamboyant tone, the story resurfaced in the June 8 issue of Newsweek under the headline, "The New Face of Islam".
This is the triumph of hope over fact-checking. "Tin-opener theology" is how the leading Western expert on the subject dismisses the efforts at Ankara University to date. Father Felix Koerner, a German Jesuit, has taught at the university and published the definitive source-book on the supposed reform. He explains that the Ankara theologians want to open up the Koran like a tin can, and take what they want out of it, without touching the real problems of Islamic theology. On this more below.
Oddly, it is not just the Western media who have gotten it wrong. A conspiracy theory is circulating among Muslim traditionalists that the Jesuits are plotting with Turkey's secularists to undermine Islam. In February, a Muslim website in Britain, Ummahpulse.com, denounced the Society of Jesus as "the pope's special forces attempting to infiltrate Muslim lines". (See The Pope's Special Forces by Muhammad Tahir, February 29, 2008.)
The notion of a "Jesuit plot" against Islam is a paranoid hallucination, for there is no consensus among the Jesuits regarding Islam, much less a plot. A handful of patient Jesuit scholars are immersed in Muslim theology, seeking a dialogue with prospective Islamic reformers. That was the subject of Benedict XVI's meeting on Islam at Castel Gandolfo in Italy in the summer of 2005 (See When even the Pope has to whisper Asia Times Online, January 10, 2006.) Reports from the meeting quoted the pope saying that Islam was incapable of reform, to which other participants took objection.
Christian Troll, a German Jesuit, sent the following correction to the website of Daniel Pipes on January 17, 2006:
The Holy Father is well-informed enough to know that there have existed and that there exist today, probably increasingly, other interpretations of the Koranic evidence with regard to a theology of revelation. These considered Muslim views and approaches do not (yet?), it would seem, inform the thinking and approach of a sizable Islamic movement or organization - and we do not know what future problems lie ahead in this regard - but it does exist and is vividly discussed in many places, both in academia and beyond.
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"Reformation" "Problems" "touching" Just the words needed to pull a string in the bigoted and paranoic muslims.
Could these "views" and "approaches" involve acknowledging Mary as mother of the muslims as the first step of a future unification? Even if those interpretations are only an empty baloon of air, only a threat of "antonomianism" of islam, it is worth considering what is planned for after the crusades.
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An open debate on these matters does not yet seem to be possible within the Arab world but Turkish and Indonesian society grant relatively more room for airing and discussing such ideas, and the so-called Western countries offer even more space. It is true that the Jesuits have someone to talk to in Turkey, but it is not clear that they have much of substance to talk about. Muslim traditionalists warn of a plot cooked up by the Jesuits in cahoots with Turkey's secular government.
Ummahpulse.com fulminated:
It appears that Koerner has spent the last few years befriending and "advising" the Ankara school of would-be revisionists whilst at the same time ministering in a state-sanctioned church of Turkey (no high-up government connections there then ...) ... Specifically, Koerner concerns himself with how to infect his Turkish "disciples" with the types of discourse which have led to the current and ongoing disintegration of the Christian Church.
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Ha-ha-ha. The jesuits want the disintegration of the christian church? Ah, but yes, their "liberation theology" and compromising theological paradigm would give that impression. But if the "turkish fundamentalists" had actually studied history, they would find other and better reasons to oppose the jesuits. Were they talking about the Reformation? "Muslim Reformers"? Rome has successfully implanted the rhetoric of "the reformation destroyed the christian world" in the minds of these deluded heathen.
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The Islamist website added:
And for those of you who might think that we here at UmmahPulse are just paranoid, please note that when the pope visited Ankara in November 2006, we were watching and listening as his colleagues declared that the "80-year-old German theologian known for his sharp intellect - has a much broader agenda than merely improving ties between Catholics and Orthodox Christians. Part of that agenda is an attempt to help spark Islamic theological reform". It is all dead, flat wrong, a tempest in an ibrik (Turkish coffee pot). None of the reporters seems to have read the basic source documents. The Ankara professors never were going to launch an Islamic reformation; Koerner and Troll were not going to put them up to it; and the Turkish government wouldn't let it happen, even if everyone else wanted it. Muslim traditionalists denounce the Ankara professors as instruments of the Turkish secularists, while the June 8 Newsweek report claims that they enjoy the patronage of Turkey's Islamist government. Both claims are false, in fact; the Ankara theologians have no real political patron.
Turkey's Islamist government, led by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, finds itself in mortal confrontation with the country's secularist army and civil institutions. Prosecutors have demanded that the Constitutional Court ban Erdogan's Justice and Development Party (AKP) party, an Islamist party whose support depends on the popular Muslim piety of the countryside. The Koranic hermeneutics of the Ankara theologians will be ignored in the confrontation.
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Ignored in the confrontation, but enlarging the camp of Erdogan. That is what you call clean work.
By simulating conspiratorial activity, the jesuits have practically delivered Turkey to the AKP.
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"Turkey's moves toward greater religious freedom, which some saw as the sign of an evolving moderate Muslim society, have been put on hold by a political crisis that could outlaw the post-Islamist ruling AKP," according to Reuters' religion editor Tom Heneghan in a May 23 dispatch. "Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, whose bid to lift a ban on Islamic headscarves at universities triggered the crisis, would probably not champion further religious reform even if he won the court case against his party, Turkish analysts say."
As noted, Father Koerner shows that what the Ankara theology department has in mind is not a reformation in any sense of the word. It is not even theology in the sense most people understand the word. Following the late Pakistani theologian Fazlur Rahman (1919-1988), the Ankara group argues that some of the revelation in the Koran was directed to specific people at a specific point in time, and is subject to revision. This includes such matters as polygamy, the wearing of veils, and other matters in which the Koran appears egregiously out of touch with the times.
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And more recently "moderate" AL SISI, whose Egypt is in the middle of a raging civil war with islamists, tells the leading islamic scholars to "REVOLUTIONIZE ISLAM" or REFORM it. Can there be a more illogical and irresponsible move in the middle of a war with fundamentalist underdogs who appeal to the poor and conservative and the sizeable MB supporters? Beside committing political suicide, SISI could also be doing this as a hundred flowers campaign to mark and later on root out potential enemies to the caliphate within the walls of the Al-Azhar
university. On the 7th of January, SISI further put a noose on secularism, by attending the Coptic Christmass eve mass, throwing out friendly nationalistic calls. A little over two weeks after his speech, Charli Hebdo caricatured the Prophet once again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEhNarfrlecEgyptian President Al-Sisi at Al-Azhar: We Must Revolutionize Our Religion
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/07/egypt-president-sisi-coptic-christmas-mass-cairo
Egyptian president attends Coptic Christmas Eve mass in Cairo
Abdel Fatah al-Sisi, a Sunni seen by many of Egypt’s
Christian minority as a saviour, makes symbolic gesture of unity.....
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In the end, SISI is another fake savior, like Putin, who will not protect the christian diaspora in the caucasus when the scimitar rises. But there have to be "false Messiahs" so that the shiny Romanov can do his grand glorious entrance on a white horse. This scripture can be applied to the occasion as a testimony to the obsession of the antichrists with biblical prophecy.
All that ever came before me(
Putin; Sisi; etc) are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
I am the good shepherd (
Romanov): the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
But he that is an
hireling (
Putin; Sisi; etc) , and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
John 10:8;11-12
ADDITION QUITE ON TOPIC :
http://theorthodoxchurch.info/blog/news/2014/10/historic-meeting-of-pope-tawadros-ii-of-alexandria-and-patriarch-kirill-of-moscow-all-russia/
Historic meeting of Pope Tawadros II of Alexandria and Patriarch Kirill of Moscow & all Russia
Moscow: His Holiness Pope Tawadros II – 118th Pope of Alexandria and Patriarch of the See of Saint Mark –
Primate of the Coptic Orthodox Church met with His Holiness Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia –
Primate of the Russian Orthodox Church on 29 October 2014.
The visit, that included a formal meeting of delegations, followed by lunch, marks
26 years since the most recent visit of the last Pope of Alexandria, His Holiness, the late Pope Shenouda III.
During the meeting at the Patriarchate, His Holiness Pope Tawadros spoke of the great heritage of spirituality and monastic tradition within the Russian Orthodox Church and commented on its contemporary role and influence, suggesting that:
“Collaboration between our Churches will be of great value to our people, both in Egypt and Russia, and a symbol of proactive unity to the whole world.”
Outside the Patriarchate in Moscow, Bishop Angaelos said:“This has been a very positive meeting with a spirit that desires collaboration and a deepening of relationships. We have seen the heads of these two ancient and significant Churches side by side and speaking with almost identical words of hope, unity and collaboration. This is only the beginning of what I am sure will prove to be an even deeper, stronger, and more effective relationship between our Churches. We pray that this spirit be conveyed to our faithful and that it may be replicated in all of our ecumenical and inter-Church relationships.”
ARE THE TWO FEMALE ITALIAN GIRLS THE COPTIC+ORTHODOX SISTERS IN BLOOD? SAVED BY ROME (ROME-ANOV)
http://control-avles-blogs.blogspot.it/2015/01/17-december-2014.html
Obsessed with the Flood - 11 - 17 December [2014]
> Two Sophias kidnapped by the Archons? Eve and Mary?
"We implore our government and its mediators to bring us back home before Christmas. We are in extreme danger and could be killed." So says Greta Ramelli, while Vanessa Marzullo holding a sign that shows the date of 17 December 2014. The two aid workers Italian [two young females] kidnapped in Syria on July 31, 2014 [St. Ignatius Loyola day] appearing in a video on YouTube, where they ask the Italian authorities to be freed. they wear the abaya, a long black robe that covers their body and hair but leaves the face. when there is no confirmation about the authenticity of the movie and the Foreign Ministry is working to verify the reliability...."
Source: http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2015/01/01/vanessa-greta-rapite-video-youtube-in-pericolo-potremmo-essere-uccise/1308438/
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"....Jorge Mario Bergoglio
Born
17 December 1936 (age 78)17 December 2013 - 17 july 2014 = 7 months
The pope was 77 years, 7 months old when the accident with Malaysia Airlines 17 happened"
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7:3 (777) or
7:15
Italy paid up to 12 million euros (£9 million) to secure the release..............
'And then
the <seventh> heaven opened and we went up to the Ogdoad. And I saw the
twelve apostles. They greeted me, and we went up to the
ninth heaven. I greeted all those who were in the ninth heaven, and we went up to the tenth heaven. And I greeted my fellow spirits.
'The Apocalypse of Paul -
NHL
so the pope was 78. But 7->8 is salvation (going to the OGDOAD) or the 8th heaven, beyond the power of the hebdomad archons.